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		<title>By: Michael E. Gordon</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/mr-photographer-tear-down-this-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael E. Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy: Slow Awakening is a FINE image! I love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy: Slow Awakening is a FINE image! I love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guy,

Thanks for the response - sublimely stated, as always.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guy,</p>
<p>Thanks for the response &#8211; sublimely stated, as always.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Kayler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Kayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guy,

Great post, and something that really strikes home for me. I started out as a bird photographer. I would occasionally photograph mammals that would come by during my outings, but I never took it too seriously. Through a series of &quot;evolutions&quot;, I began trying new things ... mammals,  flower macros, insect macros, abstracts, landscapes, reptiles/amphibians. I grew up on nature - I&#039;ve always loved every little bit of it, so it just didn&#039;t make sense that I was only photographing birds. I eventually ended up loving to photograph everything in nature that I found when out and about, and my level of appreciation and skill at capturing a variety of subjects at this point in my life couldn&#039;t make me happier. Of course, I&#039;m still in the self-imposed box of the &quot;nature photographer&quot;, but at least I can say that it&#039;s not because of any outside influences. I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll disagree with this - it&#039;s important to photograph what you love. If I set out to expand my box and start doing portraits of babies, my heart certainly won&#039;t be in it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guy,</p>
<p>Great post, and something that really strikes home for me. I started out as a bird photographer. I would occasionally photograph mammals that would come by during my outings, but I never took it too seriously. Through a series of &#8220;evolutions&#8221;, I began trying new things &#8230; mammals,  flower macros, insect macros, abstracts, landscapes, reptiles/amphibians. I grew up on nature &#8211; I&#8217;ve always loved every little bit of it, so it just didn&#8217;t make sense that I was only photographing birds. I eventually ended up loving to photograph everything in nature that I found when out and about, and my level of appreciation and skill at capturing a variety of subjects at this point in my life couldn&#8217;t make me happier. Of course, I&#8217;m still in the self-imposed box of the &#8220;nature photographer&#8221;, but at least I can say that it&#8217;s not because of any outside influences. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll disagree with this &#8211; it&#8217;s important to photograph what you love. If I set out to expand my box and start doing portraits of babies, my heart certainly won&#8217;t be in it!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Tal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Tal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys!

Richard, that&#039;s a very good observation, not only about photographers but also when you think about how many other people these days feel a need to apologize for or dismiss what they do for a living as having little to do with their own goals and beliefs.

Carl, I don&#039;t have a problem with anyone doing what they do, however narrow-scoped out of love or passion for something very specific. What I do find though is that so many nature lovers get into photography to share their joy at the natural world, only to be overtaken with the restrictions and expectations of the &quot;art world&quot; that they feel their work has to take on characteristics removed from the passion that fueled it in the first place.

Jim, I&#039;ll look into updating the links. Thanks for the reminder!
Personally, I wouldn&#039;t distinguish &quot;artistic vision&quot; from normal everyday vision. If we pursue what we love and find creative way to express it, we are all artists.

Guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys!</p>
<p>Richard, that&#8217;s a very good observation, not only about photographers but also when you think about how many other people these days feel a need to apologize for or dismiss what they do for a living as having little to do with their own goals and beliefs.</p>
<p>Carl, I don&#8217;t have a problem with anyone doing what they do, however narrow-scoped out of love or passion for something very specific. What I do find though is that so many nature lovers get into photography to share their joy at the natural world, only to be overtaken with the restrictions and expectations of the &#8220;art world&#8221; that they feel their work has to take on characteristics removed from the passion that fueled it in the first place.</p>
<p>Jim, I&#8217;ll look into updating the links. Thanks for the reminder!<br />
Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t distinguish &#8220;artistic vision&#8221; from normal everyday vision. If we pursue what we love and find creative way to express it, we are all artists.</p>
<p>Guy</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1st before I forget you may want to have this new URL replace the old one on the member listing on NPN. I had to click through to redirect pages to get here. A great reminder to update my RSS reader for our blog.

2nd for someone that prefers journals your journal is looking quite nice.

3rd I would take your argument even farther... first and foremost we are not just nature photographers we are photographers. A well trained eye isn&#039;t just locked into one genre of photography. A great photographer is able to learn techniques applied in other genres or applied in other niches and creatively apply them to their area of interest. This expanded view nurtures creativity and improved technical ability.

The following could not be more true...

&quot;It’s very easy to get locked into a mode, to preconceive expectations and to ignore opportunities once we condition our brains to seek out very specific things. And yet, by doing so, we are denying ourselves not only photo ops, but also experiences which may enrich our lives, enhance our understanding, joy, and excitement at the wonders around us.&quot;

... but I see an even larger space for photographers to operate and challenge their perceptions  retraining their eye and mind to recognize, execute and achieve their artistic vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1st before I forget you may want to have this new URL replace the old one on the member listing on NPN. I had to click through to redirect pages to get here. A great reminder to update my RSS reader for our blog.</p>
<p>2nd for someone that prefers journals your journal is looking quite nice.</p>
<p>3rd I would take your argument even farther&#8230; first and foremost we are not just nature photographers we are photographers. A well trained eye isn&#8217;t just locked into one genre of photography. A great photographer is able to learn techniques applied in other genres or applied in other niches and creatively apply them to their area of interest. This expanded view nurtures creativity and improved technical ability.</p>
<p>The following could not be more true&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s very easy to get locked into a mode, to preconceive expectations and to ignore opportunities once we condition our brains to seek out very specific things. And yet, by doing so, we are denying ourselves not only photo ops, but also experiences which may enrich our lives, enhance our understanding, joy, and excitement at the wonders around us.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; but I see an even larger space for photographers to operate and challenge their perceptions  retraining their eye and mind to recognize, execute and achieve their artistic vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guy

Just got some time to check in on your site here. Nice post, but I think it&#039;s not quite that simple. Artisans have for centuries worked and reworked their chosen field into what you might call &#039;niches&#039; .. repeating their work over and over and over also specialized and &#039;perfect&#039; it. 

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guy</p>
<p>Just got some time to check in on your site here. Nice post, but I think it&#8217;s not quite that simple. Artisans have for centuries worked and reworked their chosen field into what you might call &#8216;niches&#8217; .. repeating their work over and over and over also specialized and &#8216;perfect&#8217; it. </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every opportunity to photograph should be about discovery and is an opportunity to re-invent your own wheel. Unfortunately partially due to reasons you pointed out above, editors, &quot;experts&quot;, the general public, etc... expects us to define ourselves by a certain look or label.  What I find funny is that a lot of photographers make a distinction between commercial work and &quot;personal&quot; work.  it&#039;s as if they feel a need to apologize for showing anything other than what pays their bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every opportunity to photograph should be about discovery and is an opportunity to re-invent your own wheel. Unfortunately partially due to reasons you pointed out above, editors, &#8220;experts&#8221;, the general public, etc&#8230; expects us to define ourselves by a certain look or label.  What I find funny is that a lot of photographers make a distinction between commercial work and &#8220;personal&#8221; work.  it&#8217;s as if they feel a need to apologize for showing anything other than what pays their bills.</p>
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