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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree 100% Guy. I have been working at the L.A. Times and I&#039;m considered &quot;weird&quot; because I don&#039;t live in the city nor spend anytime in the city outside of work. And I only live 25 miles away in the suburbs! Talk about sheltered, the thought of living outside of an urban wasteland to them is like the equivalent of going to hell. For the rest of us, it is quite the opposite. Personally I dont&#039; care how others live their lives, but people should be more open minded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree 100% Guy. I have been working at the L.A. Times and I&#8217;m considered &#8220;weird&#8221; because I don&#8217;t live in the city nor spend anytime in the city outside of work. And I only live 25 miles away in the suburbs! Talk about sheltered, the thought of living outside of an urban wasteland to them is like the equivalent of going to hell. For the rest of us, it is quite the opposite. Personally I dont&#8217; care how others live their lives, but people should be more open minded.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I didn&#039;t come across quite right.

I do believe that lack of contact with the natural world is not a good thing. In fact I think I remember seeing some articles on the subject. However, I do believe there may be reasons for living in NYC that are important to those people who choose to do so.  I would hope for their sanity, they make trips to parks (where there are at least pigeons and trees), or out to the country, or wherever some form of contact with natural organic matter can happen. My guess is many do not and that does sadden me. 

Carl, yes, &#039;cab rides.&#039;  Sometimes they are a good thing. Maybe I should have stated good public transportation (of which we have none here in the SW), instead.

I also never meant to invalidate the commentary.  I feel it is very valid.  I was merely replying to Guy&#039;s question/statement of &quot;How does one come to accept such sacrifices? I never understood.&quot; and advocating we don&#039;t need to, we should just feel compassion for them. Maybe I should also say that I believe as nature photographers, it&#039;s our job to share what we see to those who might not even know what they are missing.  At least that&#039;s one of my personal goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I didn&#8217;t come across quite right.</p>
<p>I do believe that lack of contact with the natural world is not a good thing. In fact I think I remember seeing some articles on the subject. However, I do believe there may be reasons for living in NYC that are important to those people who choose to do so.  I would hope for their sanity, they make trips to parks (where there are at least pigeons and trees), or out to the country, or wherever some form of contact with natural organic matter can happen. My guess is many do not and that does sadden me. </p>
<p>Carl, yes, &#8216;cab rides.&#8217;  Sometimes they are a good thing. Maybe I should have stated good public transportation (of which we have none here in the SW), instead.</p>
<p>I also never meant to invalidate the commentary.  I feel it is very valid.  I was merely replying to Guy&#8217;s question/statement of &#8220;How does one come to accept such sacrifices? I never understood.&#8221; and advocating we don&#8217;t need to, we should just feel compassion for them. Maybe I should also say that I believe as nature photographers, it&#8217;s our job to share what we see to those who might not even know what they are missing.  At least that&#8217;s one of my personal goals.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wall</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all a matter of priorities. 

Scene: thousands of people walking through Grand Central Station. A sparrow has gotten in there and is twittering away. No New Yorker notices. A birdwatcher rolls a quarter down the middle of the floor and every New Yorker in earshot turns toward the sound.... (Story adapted from one by Tom Brown, Jr.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all a matter of priorities. </p>
<p>Scene: thousands of people walking through Grand Central Station. A sparrow has gotten in there and is twittering away. No New Yorker notices. A birdwatcher rolls a quarter down the middle of the floor and every New Yorker in earshot turns toward the sound&#8230;. (Story adapted from one by Tom Brown, Jr.)</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Tal</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Tal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I started with a quote, I&#039;ll follow up with another to make my point clearer:

&quot;The opposite of love is not hate, it&#039;s indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it&#039;s indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it&#039;s indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it&#039;s indifference.&quot; --Elie Weisel

I don&#039;t need to understand anyone&#039;s choices. But, like it or not, there are certain natural axioms our very existence as living beings depends on, and many more that determine our welfare. If we remain indifferent to their fate, we will certainly lose them and, consequently, ourselves.

Guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I started with a quote, I&#8217;ll follow up with another to make my point clearer:</p>
<p>&#8220;The opposite of love is not hate, it&#8217;s indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it&#8217;s indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it&#8217;s indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it&#8217;s indifference.&#8221; &#8211;Elie Weisel</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need to understand anyone&#8217;s choices. But, like it or not, there are certain natural axioms our very existence as living beings depends on, and many more that determine our welfare. If we remain indifferent to their fate, we will certainly lose them and, consequently, ourselves.</p>
<p>Guy</p>
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		<title>By: Carl D</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 06:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Laurent,

Did I read that right? ..... &lt;em&gt;&#039;cab rides&#039;&lt;/em&gt;?????

I don&#039;t need to judge people&#039;s choices to understand what&#039;s missing if they give up contact with the natural world - it&#039;s like growing up without contact with one&#039;s parents, and is a surefire path to dysfunction. Everyone has that choice to make, for sure, and I&#039;d never try to mandate how they live their lives - but that doesn&#039;t disqualify or invalidate commentary.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Laurent,</p>
<p>Did I read that right? &#8230;.. <em>&#8216;cab rides&#8217;</em>?????</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need to judge people&#8217;s choices to understand what&#8217;s missing if they give up contact with the natural world &#8211; it&#8217;s like growing up without contact with one&#8217;s parents, and is a surefire path to dysfunction. Everyone has that choice to make, for sure, and I&#8217;d never try to mandate how they live their lives &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t disqualify or invalidate commentary.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In truth, we don&#039;t have to undestand how anyone chooses to live - sacrifices and all.  We simply need to have understanding and compassion that ours is not the only way. The NPR quote simply demonstrates what one person is willing to give up. But maybe that person gains something else, eg. access to art, theater, night life, cab rides.  Who knows or should judge why people choose what they do?

It would not be how I wish to live either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In truth, we don&#8217;t have to undestand how anyone chooses to live &#8211; sacrifices and all.  We simply need to have understanding and compassion that ours is not the only way. The NPR quote simply demonstrates what one person is willing to give up. But maybe that person gains something else, eg. access to art, theater, night life, cab rides.  Who knows or should judge why people choose what they do?</p>
<p>It would not be how I wish to live either.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Schallau</title>
		<link>http://guytal.com/wordpress/2008/04/sad-quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Schallau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy,

I think we all make sacrifices that may seem strange to others that are living in a different environment and culture. I too can not understand how someone can willingly sacrifice the gift of the stars above or the singing of birds in the morning, but I&#039;m sure they can&#039;t understand how I sacrifice the modern conveniences of a big city.

BTW, the journal looks great!

Best,
Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy,</p>
<p>I think we all make sacrifices that may seem strange to others that are living in a different environment and culture. I too can not understand how someone can willingly sacrifice the gift of the stars above or the singing of birds in the morning, but I&#8217;m sure they can&#8217;t understand how I sacrifice the modern conveniences of a big city.</p>
<p>BTW, the journal looks great!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Carl D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt,

Great line - Wendell Berry is one of the greatest writers I&#039;ve read - an amazingly intelligent man. Thanks for the quote and the link.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt,</p>
<p>Great line &#8211; Wendell Berry is one of the greatest writers I&#8217;ve read &#8211; an amazingly intelligent man. Thanks for the quote and the link.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that you have all read this, but I like to read it often..it always reminds me of what is important

 &quot;Give your approval to all you cannot
understand. Praise ignorance, for what man
has not encountered he has not destroyed.&quot;
--Wendell Berry

Here is a link to the entire Manifesto:

http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC30/Berry.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that you have all read this, but I like to read it often..it always reminds me of what is important</p>
<p> &#8220;Give your approval to all you cannot<br />
understand. Praise ignorance, for what man<br />
has not encountered he has not destroyed.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Wendell Berry</p>
<p>Here is a link to the entire Manifesto:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC30/Berry.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC30/Berry.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carl D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guy

Ain&#039;t it something? And folks say going hiking in the mountains, around bears, and sleeping on the ground, is crazy! Those same folks sit in their car 90 minutes each way to work a job.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guy</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t it something? And folks say going hiking in the mountains, around bears, and sleeping on the ground, is crazy! Those same folks sit in their car 90 minutes each way to work a job.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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